tysmmm !! half the time i was spit-balling and hoping it would link back in a way that acc made sense so im happy it did cus otherwise all my nerdy little rants would just be really embarrassing πππ
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I read everything till now and holy cow miimoreo you cooked like there was no tomorrow. The comparisons with the myths and how it makes sense with some characters. The medeas story and the other stuff as well. I cant list all of it down but I did read it all and I can say for a fact you are the absolute goat of myths in this cs.
pretty much !! and oedipus can observe things and knows the truth of whats hes done after hes blinded himself, so im saying that a state of blindness always accompanies discovering the truth in shadow slave. sorta. i think?
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MisinformationSpreader
yeah, that surprisingly did help. so basically oedipus and kai can 'see' but they cannot observe πΏ
okay what i mean is in ancient greek the words for 'see' and 'know' are really similar because back then you could only 'knew' something was true when you 'saw' it. oedipus is an ironic play on this because when he has both of his eyes and can 'see', he doesnt 'know' the truth of who hes married to but once he figures out the truth he blinds himself and cant 'see' anymore. i took this concept of blindness=knowledge of fate/the truth and applied it to cassie, sunny and kai. Cassie is blind so cant 'see' but 'knows' the truth of nearly everything nearly all the time, Sunny could 'see' the strings of fate but didnt 'know' how much he would lose becoming fateless and kai's a lil different cus even though hes not physically blind and can actually 'see' incredibly well, he is naive and "blind" to the nature of the world most of the time and his flaw is that he 'knows' when someones telling the truth. did this help at all?
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had to read this 4 times and i still don't understand ππ
its so intriguinggggg its themes fit so well w shadow slaveeee like the inevitablity of fate s*it my teacher went all nerdy when we got too it cus he wanted to yap abt greek theatre and the chorus nd s*it and ig its rubbed off on me. but the whole doing his mum bit kinda made me laugh icl
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Sorrowful
Oh nah π
I still remember the story when my teach taught me it. Him getting the prophecy of killing his father and marrying his mother, choosing to flee the country to evade the prophecy, only for that to be the turning point and fulfilling the prophecy at the end.
i can try get mikvlh to do it but that mf lazy as all hell god even knows if he'll do it he'll text me like 'nahhh ion wannaaa' ππ i draw but its more realism so its lonngggg so i barely post on the discord. i might draw cassie as oedipus tho cus it seems like a rlly silly comparison
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Sorrowful
πIf you have the hands to pick the pen, do it. I like drawing but in cycles only. I pick the pen, I slip, I do it for fun here and then now. The hurdle to get decent is quite huge. Since your a fan of greek tales, the closest comparison would be Sisyphus with the d*mn boulder. It's only uphill, the learning curve. And if you take a break, your progress gets reset quite a bits π
Otherwise, the closest we may get is N0tepic, quite the goated artist. Regarding SS, he is the greatest asset we the community have π
He had done some effie picks I think? No athena though
His Jet bunny suit was something else though, I have to say. πΏ
i read the euripides ver where she flies into the sky on the sun chariot w her childrens corpses strapped to her chest ππ my comparison is hella streched tho i agree i just really like the medea and i also thought abot how even tho medea commited a fuckton of murder, she wasnt punished bcs in the eyes of hera, he made the first mistake. like dude if ur patron goddess is the goddess of marriage maybe dont break the sacred marriage laws idiot. her not being punished made me think about how nephis is similarly a victor. although she betrays the anvil she still wins in the end and is seen as a hero in the eyes of the people, like how medea was seen as innocent in the eyes of the gods (or at least more innocent that jason) side note but i wish someone would make fanart of effie as athena π i might have to do it
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Sorrowful
Yeah not gonna lie, I read up on Medea, and somehow what you wrote makes sense, even though it should not. The ending however is diversified it seems, with one poet saying that she accidentally killed her children by burying them when she wanted to make the immortal, while a tragedian says the version you mentioned.
On another note, I read about medeas story. Specifically Medea and jasons journey, how hera made them fall in love, and Medea tricking Pelias daughters into cutting him into pieces to 'revitalize' him due to his old age π€£ Like when he did not rise from the cauldron, what did they do? stare at medea? Witch got them good.
But as you said now and before, neph being the biblical nephilim is certainly G3s vision rather than medea. It was a bit of a stretchy comparison, but definitely a fun one though.
tyyβ so kai's aspect is 'to see through illusions and all forms of obfuscation and see through objects' so my king has enhanced sight but his flaw is discernment. This is interesting when placed with Oedipus bc in every other case its worked similarly to him but my goat kai 'knows' when sm1s lying while he can 'see' . Still i think the blindness=truth works because its established that kai is the most naive member of the cohort and often knows the least abt events, him having nearly no knowledge of what was happening at the end of the 3rd nightmare, showing a sort of blindness in that regard. hes also blindingly beautiful. he is also 'blind' to how powerful or brave he is, often doubting or humbling himself purely from a sort of self-loathing. This puts him in contrast to the arrogant oedipus, who thought he outsmarted fate, and the dual hubris of sunny and cassie who thought the same (they did achieve it tho) and makes his sight, his knowledge a result of his otherwise blindness
tysmmm !! half the time i was spit-balling and hoping it would link back in a way that acc made sense so im happy it did cus otherwise all my nerdy little rants would just be really embarrassing πππ
I read everything till now and holy cow miimoreo you cooked like there was no tomorrow. The comparisons with the myths and how it makes sense with some characters. The medeas story and the other stuff as well. I cant list all of it down but I did read it all and I can say for a fact you are the absolute goat of myths in this cs.
i lied
no homo? π€
if only
get ready he's coming π¦π¦
couldnt have said it better myself
so sunny has to gouge out his eyes, and from one of the other sunnies will summon sin of solace, and fax will be spit!!!
pretty much !! and oedipus can observe things and knows the truth of whats hes done after hes blinded himself, so im saying that a state of blindness always accompanies discovering the truth in shadow slave. sorta. i think?
yeah, that surprisingly did help. so basically oedipus and kai can 'see' but they cannot observe πΏ
okay what i mean is in ancient greek the words for 'see' and 'know' are really similar because back then you could only 'knew' something was true when you 'saw' it. oedipus is an ironic play on this because when he has both of his eyes and can 'see', he doesnt 'know' the truth of who hes married to but once he figures out the truth he blinds himself and cant 'see' anymore. i took this concept of blindness=knowledge of fate/the truth and applied it to cassie, sunny and kai. Cassie is blind so cant 'see' but 'knows' the truth of nearly everything nearly all the time, Sunny could 'see' the strings of fate but didnt 'know' how much he would lose becoming fateless and kai's a lil different cus even though hes not physically blind and can actually 'see' incredibly well, he is naive and "blind" to the nature of the world most of the time and his flaw is that he 'knows' when someones telling the truth. did this help at all?
had to read this 4 times and i still don't understand ππ
its so intriguinggggg its themes fit so well w shadow slaveeee like the inevitablity of fate s*it my teacher went all nerdy when we got too it cus he wanted to yap abt greek theatre and the chorus nd s*it and ig its rubbed off on me. but the whole doing his mum bit kinda made me laugh icl
Oh nah π
I still remember the story when my teach taught me it. Him getting the prophecy of killing his father and marrying his mother, choosing to flee the country to evade the prophecy, only for that to be the turning point and fulfilling the prophecy at the end.
i can try get mikvlh to do it but that mf lazy as all hell god even knows if he'll do it he'll text me like 'nahhh ion wannaaa' ππ i draw but its more realism so its lonngggg so i barely post on the discord. i might draw cassie as oedipus tho cus it seems like a rlly silly comparison
πIf you have the hands to pick the pen, do it. I like drawing but in cycles only. I pick the pen, I slip, I do it for fun here and then now. The hurdle to get decent is quite huge. Since your a fan of greek tales, the closest comparison would be Sisyphus with the d*mn boulder. It's only uphill, the learning curve. And if you take a break, your progress gets reset quite a bits π
Otherwise, the closest we may get is N0tepic, quite the goated artist. Regarding SS, he is the greatest asset we the community have π
He had done some effie picks I think? No athena though
His Jet bunny suit was something else though, I have to say. πΏ
i read the euripides ver where she flies into the sky on the sun chariot w her childrens corpses strapped to her chest ππ my comparison is hella streched tho i agree i just really like the medea and i also thought abot how even tho medea commited a fuckton of murder, she wasnt punished bcs in the eyes of hera, he made the first mistake. like dude if ur patron goddess is the goddess of marriage maybe dont break the sacred marriage laws idiot. her not being punished made me think about how nephis is similarly a victor. although she betrays the anvil she still wins in the end and is seen as a hero in the eyes of the people, like how medea was seen as innocent in the eyes of the gods (or at least more innocent that jason) side note but i wish someone would make fanart of effie as athena π i might have to do it
Yeah not gonna lie, I read up on Medea, and somehow what you wrote makes sense, even though it should not. The ending however is diversified it seems, with one poet saying that she accidentally killed her children by burying them when she wanted to make the immortal, while a tragedian says the version you mentioned.
On another note, I read about medeas story. Specifically Medea and jasons journey, how hera made them fall in love, and Medea tricking Pelias daughters into cutting him into pieces to 'revitalize' him due to his old age π€£ Like when he did not rise from the cauldron, what did they do? stare at medea? Witch got them good.
But as you said now and before, neph being the biblical nephilim is certainly G3s vision rather than medea. It was a bit of a stretchy comparison, but definitely a fun one though.
tyyβ so kai's aspect is 'to see through illusions and all forms of obfuscation and see through objects' so my king has enhanced sight but his flaw is discernment. This is interesting when placed with Oedipus bc in every other case its worked similarly to him but my goat kai 'knows' when sm1s lying while he can 'see' . Still i think the blindness=truth works because its established that kai is the most naive member of the cohort and often knows the least abt events, him having nearly no knowledge of what was happening at the end of the 3rd nightmare, showing a sort of blindness in that regard. hes also blindingly beautiful. he is also 'blind' to how powerful or brave he is, often doubting or humbling himself purely from a sort of self-loathing. This puts him in contrast to the arrogant oedipus, who thought he outsmarted fate, and the dual hubris of sunny and cassie who thought the same (they did achieve it tho) and makes his sight, his knowledge a result of his otherwise blindness
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