bro that is not at all what happens lmao. When the spell says that, it means the actual gods of the present, not the gods back then. Even if it did, how powerful would the spell need to be to recreate the gods and use that recreation to bless sunny
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Tempest
So i went back and reread the chapter that sunny kills auro (Ch 14) and it not only says that the shadow god is dead but that all of the gods are dead, here's the quote
"[You have offered yourself as a sacrifice to the gods.]
[The gods are dead, and can not hear you.]"
the only possible explanation is that Sunny's first nightmare takes place near the end of the doom war or after it
yeah fair enough bro, i've finished the novel and ik the nightmen have emotions but they are very limited, they aren't quite specter level, but almost, Daniel is goated tho. I think this is a plot hole tho cause even tho the aliens themselves don't have souls, the kid they find from earth to become the champion definitely has a soul, he isn't an alien he is a human. Tbh i don't even know why I am fixated on this point tho, it was nice talking to u :)
I'm not sure what chap ur up to but the nightmen are definetly not emotionless. Also, emotions aren't just brain activity and chemicals in this novel, there is also the involvement of souls. The aliens don't actually have souls and are emotionless and need to rely on races that have souls to create energy. If the aliens could create or manipulate souls, wouldn't they use that on themselves? Really, this could be a complete plot hole and thinking about it more definetly won't go anywhere.
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Bhimps
ik the nightmen aren't loyal to humanity, but nick managed to manipulate their dna to essentially have no emotions, so if an even more advanced biological alien race were to manipulate the dna of a newborn, surely they could limit or remove certain emotions of their new champion that would lead to them feeling sympathy or empathy for humanity? I'm not rlly talking about the sun per se, but the entire alien race, as the sun is just a construct made by them
But the nightmen aren't loyal to humanity? I get what you are trying to say but biology in this novel doesn't work this way. Yeah they could have manipulated the champions memories or something but my headcanon is that even though the old champion of light did disobey them by blocking their perception, he didn't actually do something bad. Also it's mentioned somewhere that using the sun's secondary abilities as in something outside of granting abilities and advancing specters takes up a ridiculous amount of resources.
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Bhimps
yeah bro i get what you mean that their ideals changed after working with humanity, but what I am trying to say is that when a mistake happens once, you generally don't let it happen a second time. The alien race had countless methods to ensure undying loyalty to them, such as changing the dna of the champion before they were born like what our mc did with the nightmen, but the aliens decided to leave a loophole for the second time, which is just plain stupidity
bloody scoundrel
su ming aint fucking u lil sis
su ming is batshit insane
bro that is not at all what happens lmao. When the spell says that, it means the actual gods of the present, not the gods back then. Even if it did, how powerful would the spell need to be to recreate the gods and use that recreation to bless sunny
So i went back and reread the chapter that sunny kills auro (Ch 14) and it not only says that the shadow god is dead but that all of the gods are dead, here's the quote
"[You have offered yourself as a sacrifice to the gods.]
[The gods are dead, and can not hear you.]"
the only possible explanation is that Sunny's first nightmare takes place near the end of the doom war or after it
tf is this plot
is it bad i forgot this clone dude
talk to u later pookie ;)
yeah fair enough bro, i've finished the novel and ik the nightmen have emotions but they are very limited, they aren't quite specter level, but almost, Daniel is goated tho. I think this is a plot hole tho cause even tho the aliens themselves don't have souls, the kid they find from earth to become the champion definitely has a soul, he isn't an alien he is a human. Tbh i don't even know why I am fixated on this point tho, it was nice talking to u :)
I'm not sure what chap ur up to but the nightmen are definetly not emotionless. Also, emotions aren't just brain activity and chemicals in this novel, there is also the involvement of souls. The aliens don't actually have souls and are emotionless and need to rely on races that have souls to create energy. If the aliens could create or manipulate souls, wouldn't they use that on themselves? Really, this could be a complete plot hole and thinking about it more definetly won't go anywhere.
ik the nightmen aren't loyal to humanity, but nick managed to manipulate their dna to essentially have no emotions, so if an even more advanced biological alien race were to manipulate the dna of a newborn, surely they could limit or remove certain emotions of their new champion that would lead to them feeling sympathy or empathy for humanity? I'm not rlly talking about the sun per se, but the entire alien race, as the sun is just a construct made by them
But the nightmen aren't loyal to humanity? I get what you are trying to say but biology in this novel doesn't work this way. Yeah they could have manipulated the champions memories or something but my headcanon is that even though the old champion of light did disobey them by blocking their perception, he didn't actually do something bad. Also it's mentioned somewhere that using the sun's secondary abilities as in something outside of granting abilities and advancing specters takes up a ridiculous amount of resources.
yeah bro i get what you mean that their ideals changed after working with humanity, but what I am trying to say is that when a mistake happens once, you generally don't let it happen a second time. The alien race had countless methods to ensure undying loyalty to them, such as changing the dna of the champion before they were born like what our mc did with the nightmen, but the aliens decided to leave a loophole for the second time, which is just plain stupidity
fucking brilliant